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Post by Guest Tue 26 Mar 2013, 7:59 pm

heres a site that may interest u if u r in the market for a decent set up for ya ute or van..
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let us know if u do a deal--and what u get.
They have a wharehouse in Perth.

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Post by Guest Tue 26 Mar 2013, 9:08 pm

That's a good price for 165 Ah batteries. With a 3 to 5 year warranty on 'em they seem good value.

For years I've never used anything but AGM, spiral wound batts from Optima in the USA. I usually get 4 years out of 'em on rough roads and they have an incredible CCA rating for what is a physically small battery. They can also be used a cranking battery as well as a deep cycle and I do use 'em in both types of service as the Nissan has very small battery space under the bonnet. (That big Chev V8 diesel takes up a lot of room!!) I carry 3 AGM batteries and another in the caravan.

I couldn't use these Chineses batteries as they're too big a footprint, but they do look a bargain at that price and warranty. If I had room I'd give 'em a go.

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 9:14 am

Hi All,

Went to Perth Monday and picked up 4 Fullriver AGM 120a/h batteries normally $410 ea but got them for $330ea, also picked up an evakool 60L fridge/freezer(really only 47L) for $649 which will be our permanent freezer

Also just recieved our inverter gen 4.4kva for $550, its bloody huge but has the remote start feature which will be real good for switching off when goin ni- nies

About to order a battery charger and a foldable solar panel 120w then that should aught to do it, damn, where does all the money go!!!

Cat, I use one of those optima batt's in my cruiser after goin thru new batt's every 6mths i reckon they must be gettin shaken to death and reading where the optimas could take more punishment i opted for one of them, so far so good and like you said good crankin power

Ron

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 9:24 am

"4.4 kVa"!! What do you do out there? Launch satellites? Fire lasers at Mars? Melt rocks?

That's a big genny just for camping. Ron, are you sure you've got that price right? "4.4 kVa for $550.00"??

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Post by Jack-Tar Wed 27 Mar 2013, 9:58 am

I'm with Cat, what do you do with 4.4 kva? Your solar will keep your battery topped up.

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Post by snapper Wed 27 Mar 2013, 11:00 am

Maybe he has a bloody big jack hammer or drill so he can do this jhgigfif jhgigfif jhgigfif then this l;wfh l;wfh l;wfh
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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:13 pm

Ron,

As you say, the biggest destroyer of batteries is vibration, which is why a battery should be well held down by a good clamoing system on a soft surface.

The Optimas are good in that respect as they "spiral wound" as opposed to plates in a normal battery and the lead/acid solution is a gel and not a liquid as in normal batts. This all helps to minimise the vibe problem so they last longer. I have one on the way out at present after about 3 years, it's down to 2/3 rds capacity but it's still well capable of cranking my Chev 6.5 litre V8 diesel. I'll get a few more months out of it still.

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Post by boobook Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:39 pm

Another destructive factor with batteries under the vehicle bonnet is heat.
They simply dont like it.
I think batteries are a little like humans, they suffer from stress and we all know what that can do to us.
Mike
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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 6:58 pm

geez and heres me trying to but an 8 kva genset-diesel to light the palace up..air con/heaters/ fridge /freezer and all the associated crap that I have got...

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 7:44 pm

Hi All,

Sorry I'm late replying but i put the gearbox and transfer back into the cruiser today, still got the tailshafts and exhaust to go but nearly there.

The only reason i went for the 4.4kva was that it had a remote start and i needed 2200 w for the aircon + lights and telly, and 110L waeco and all

The 3.4kva would have done but no remote so 4.4 it is and at $550 delivered to the door can't beat it, i think the ebay seller was praelia

Maybe!!!, i can take the jack-hammer, vibrator, hairdryer, breadmaker, slow cooker,...jeese i need a bigger cruiser!!!

Ron

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 7:48 pm

oneday monday wrote:geez and heres me trying to but an 8 kva genset-diesel to light the palace up..air con/heaters/ fridge /freezer and all the associated crap that I have got...

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oneday

Like I keep saying, Ray 'n Ron, about you city folk, you shouldn't be out there without your latte machine and electric blankets, it's far too dangerous.

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 7:50 pm

mate its comfort with a capital C

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 7:54 pm

Hi Cat,

I got the missus to cuddle up to and she makes a good coffee with extras and this is our first year out full timin so i suppose we will work it out eventually

Ron

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 8:03 pm

struff Ron --takin a vibrator--now thats gona keep someone happy-- lol!

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Post by Jack-Tar Wed 27 Mar 2013, 8:04 pm

So I'm a bit confused, are these optima batteries gel or AGM.

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Mar 2013, 8:42 pm

Jack-Tar wrote:So I'm a bit confused, are these optima batteries gel or AGM.

JT,

The term "AGM" just means "Absorbed Glass Mat" which is basically glass matt sitting in a lead/acid solution. This is the same chemical reaction to give you the volts but it's a more reliable, stable, durable but more expensive way of doing things than a simple lead plate battery in a lead/acid solution.

The other advantages of Optima is the lead/acid gel solution rather than a liquid solution as above and the fact that they are "spiral wound" glass mat - sitting in a sticky gel. All designed to make the battery more rugged under harsh conditions such as vibration etc.

So Optima are both gel and AGM - tightly spiral wound with no plates as such.

HTH

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Post by Jack-Tar Wed 27 Mar 2013, 8:57 pm

Thanks Cat,
I do know the differences between the two technologies (AGM & Gel). I'm just trying to get my head around a battery that combines the two. As gel batteries do not tolerate a high charge rate, I expect the max voltage for charging these batteries would be 14.4 volt. Is this correct?

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